Parenting with Peace Pt 2

Parenting with Peace Pt 2

Teachable Woman Podcast

Reverends Michele Owes and Diana P. Cherry

squadcaster-c006_1_10-07-2025_162205: [00:00:00] Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome. Welcome back to The Teachable Woman Podcast. I am Reverend Michele Owes. I am so excited to be back with you up on today. Mrs. Cherry and I have been laboring to get a podcast to you. whenever you don't hear one, at the scheduled time, know that it is not a matter of our head or our hearts that we are battling with technology to get to you what we know God would have you to have.

squadcaster-c006_1_10-07-2025_162205: So, Mrs. Cherry and I are sitting next to each other. Together we are teachers of good things. We have started, we are doing today the way we started. We're in the same room, knee to knee.

squadcaster-c006_1_10-07-2025_162205: Recording this podcast. Mrs. Cherry, please say hello.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Hello Podcast family. We pray that you'll be [00:01:00] immensely blessed by the teaching today because we have been laboring all day long to try to get a podcast for you. So be encouraged, be strong, and please remember to pray for us. We're doing the best. We can do, but we do need your prayers.

squadcaster-c006_1_10-07-2025_162205: Amen to that. We are excited and thankful about the 37 day, 37 second challenge. We appreciate all of you who have contacted us and say, have, and said, Hey, I'm joining the challenge. We also want you to know that anyone can join this challenge at any time. Just make sure that you pray your, 37 days of the 37 seconds and.

squadcaster-c006_1_10-07-2025_162205: We're not trying to limit your prayer life. That doesn't have to be all that you pray. You can certainly pray more, but Mrs. Cherry had a beautiful take on what could happen with this 37 day, 37 second challenge. And Mrs. Cherry, would you please share that with us?

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: I was just thinking [00:02:00] as people are joining into the challenge at different points, at different times during the month, I just know that we're gonna have people praying the 37 seconds for 37 days.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Connectively and we're gonna end up probably having at least a year. Of people joining us and praying that 37 seconds for 37 days. And the thing is, our country really needs our prayer and we're excited about all the things, all the testimonies that we're receiving about the people have who've been blessed.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: The people joined the prayer challenge and we know that God's gonna hear from heaven. Just think we have a possibility of God using us, a cadre of praying men and women to be the ones who give God permission to have his will. Done in the earth because the will of man is as strongest as force in operation in the earth.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: [00:03:00] But if God. His people called by his name. If he gets us to humble ourselves, if he gets us to repent from our sinful ways, if he gets us to pray and to seek his face, God will hear from heaven and because we are prayer. Pray prayer warriors and we're putting our will in line with his will, God's will can get done in the earth through us.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Isn't that awesome? That is just exciting to me. Yes it is. That something that God gave to one woman Michele Owes has now spread throughout the the nation and probably in places around the world and there are people praying and seeking God. And giving him permission to do his will. In Earth and the first part of the earth is us, the earthen vessels.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: He wants to do his will in us, and as a result of doing his will in us, [00:04:00] he'll also be given permission for his will to be done in the earth. And we need God's will in the earth more than ever in life before. Amen. Those of you who are part of this nation, the United States of America, recognize that we're in a state that we've never seen before, and more than ever, we need the intervention.

Rev. Michele Owes: Intervention of a holy God in the. Affairs of this nation. And so as we pray, we wanna give God permission to intervene in the affairs of this nation. The Bible tells us that he is the one who promotes and he is the one who sits down. And so we are looking forward to some people taking some seats because God will be involved and we will be allowing him to intervene not only in our personal lives.

Rev. Michele Owes: But also in the affairs of this nation. All right. So, the idea of prayer was through our retreat this year, but it was [00:05:00] participants who actually started the 37, 37 challenge, and we appreciate them sharing it with us, and it is our delight to share it with you. We are teaching from our parenting series, and our parenting series is a request from our listenership, and we were delighted to honor that request and share not only from the word of God, but from the personal experiences that Mrs.Cherry and I have had as parents.

Rev. Michele Owes: So Mrs. Cherry has been sharing the tidbits and I have been infusing the fruit of God's spirit in the sessions because. Children are God's heritage. God wants us to raise them in the nurture and the admonition of the Lord, and that means that we raise them with the fruit of his spirit, which we know is the character of God.

Rev. Michele Owes: I know that sometimes we think that because we brought these children into the world, that we can say what we want to say and do what we [00:06:00] want to do. God is saying, nay, nay, this is my heritage. I have given you instructions in my word as to how I want my children raised. So from there, Mrs. Cherry is going to share with us.

Rev. Michele Owes: We were, we covered the fruit of the spirit of love and joy and peace, and now this is going to be PEACE part two. Mrs. Cherry, take us away.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Amen. One of the things that, the Lord brought to my attention, in fact, I was lying in bed one night meditating, thinking about the goodness of the Lord, and he reminded me of a series that I taught, I think in 1987 about Children Taught of God.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: That was the name of the series. One of the things that we did not share with you that I think it's important to share with you is the text scripture for that teaching, and it's in Isaiah Chapter 54:13. It's verse number 13, and it teaches us that all [00:07:00] Thy children shall be taught by the Lord, and great shall be the peace of your children.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: So as we think about our children and we think about peace, the key to our children being peaceful is being taught by the Lord and the way that they're taught by the Lord is through our teaching. them and sharing with them and living God's word ourselves. And in that teaching, I taught that children who are taught of the Lord, they know that God is their so source.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: They know that he is their security and they know that God will give them success. Success apart from God will not yield any peace at all. Peace is an internal relationship that we have with God. It's God in us and our being in him, and that inner working relationship is what gives [00:08:00] us peace.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: So I want to encourage all of us to continue to strive to teach our children to be peaceful children because they know the word of the Lord. Because we have taught them the word of the Lord. The key to our children having love, joy, and peace is through our example. We have to exemplify love, joy, and peace because our children are going to do what we do.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: They're going to say what we say, they're gonna be what we are. And I just wanna encourage everybody to be very aware of the fact that we are the, examples for our children. And we hear them say things or do things sometimes, and we're like, Lord, where'd they get that from us? It's a quick, simple answer.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: It might not be you personally, but it's some US that is in their life. A mother, father, [00:09:00] grandmother, grand cousins, and so it's incumbent upon us to teach our children. The love of the Lord, the joy of the Lord, and how to have the peace of the Lord. And to do that, we should strive to raise our children and to teach our children how to be children of the most high God.

Rev. Michele Owes: Amen. When we think about peace and our children having peace. A lot of that comes from what we teach them about peace in the home, how we conduct our affairs in the home, more than purchasing anything more than giving them things. Children want to be accepted for who they are. They want to be loved. They want to feel safe.

Rev. Michele Owes: They want to see a smile on your face when they walk in the room. No matter what they've done, [00:10:00] they still want to see a smile on your face. And sometimes when our children have behaved in ways that are, other than we expect, we tend to take that smile away, not just for that offense, but for a long time, and it bruises their hearts.

Rev. Michele Owes: One thing that I learned from a pediatrician, the number one pediatrician in Houston, Texas, years ago. He said that when you have more than two children in a two-parent household, you have to spend time with each child because each child is different. It's beyond having one parent per child.

Rev. Michele Owes: The goal is that every child has some attention at all times, but when you have that situation, he suggested that we spend 10 minutes a day with each child individually, without the others. Don’t treat them as a group, but look that [00:11:00] child in the eyes, and assure that child that they are loved. Assure the child that they are cared for, assure the child that whatever has gone on in the course of their day, that they have a God who can make things better.

Rev. Michele Owes: When we have more than three children, we tend to do everything in a group. Mrs. Cherry suggested that we put together a photo album for each child. You could work on that craft together as a way to spend time together with him. I did that, and over the years I learned that for each new child they had fewer and fewer pictures, and that actually equates to how much child, how much time each child gets.

Rev. Michele Owes: You know, the first child gets all of the attention, gets all of the pictures. We know their first steps, the first time they did this, the first time they did that, the second child we're just glad they could walk. We may not record the date, we just think it was about this time, right? But we still have [00:12:00] some pictures.

Rev. Michele Owes: By the time the third child comes, every child is in every picture. What they have is in a group. We don't know when they first walked, when they first talked. We don't know any of that because we are just trying to keep it together. We're trying to keep the food on the table. We're trying to get everybody out to daycare.

Rev. Michele Owes: We're trying to teach, we're trying to do all of these things, but the attention that a child needs is one-on-one attention. And you know what? That may not just be for children. That may be for your adults, who are still seeking the love of a parent. This is not a lesson that is particularly geared to small children.

Rev. Michele Owes: It's geared to us as parents. Sometimes our adult children are still seeking our attention, approval, and our love. God wants them to have that because we're their first [00:13:00] example of love. If they cannot trust the love that we give them, it's going to be very difficult for them to trust the love of a Holy God that they cannot see.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Very true. And the other thing that we shared. you know, we make reference to what we shared and we know what we're talking about. It's because I'm just gonna be frank with you. You know, I'm all the, I'm always the one to tell it all. It's because we've done about five podcasts today and they were all excellent.In our opinion.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: So when we refer to what we have said, we're really referring to the fact that we did teach all of this earlier today, but we've had, as we let you know, frequent technical difficulties. We've shared about the fact that peace is not in possessions.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: And, as grownups, I know that we can be touched with this because the longer we live, and I know as an 82-year-old [00:14:00] woman, the more that possessions are not important to me at all. And, so if we could train the children early in life that it's not in what you have, but it is in who you are.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Yes. And your relationship with God, that's where peace comes from. We talked about the fact that, sometimes, we go overboard trying to demonstrate our love to our child, especially that firstborn child by doing things that the child has no concept of, no appreciation for, and will have no memory of.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Right? I was talking to a young mom the other day and she was saying that she's getting ready to have a big birthday party for her little one who's turning one, and I said to her, why? That child will have no memory of anything that you do for him or her at one. So why do it? You can get a little cap, a little birthday cap.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: You can get a [00:15:00] big candle. You can get a little cupcake or a little cake with one candle on it. Take lots of pictures of that child and that will be the only thing that's really going to be memorable. For him or her. And so the young person said to me, you know, I thought about that. And I think I'm going to do what you suggest because the child is not going to remember that.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: So we do a lot of things because we did not have. Certain things when we were children, and sometimes we try to compensate for what we lacked by doing too much for our children, but we failed to teach them that which is most important, and that is the word of God, the love of God, the power of God, the security of God, and, and, and to have a relationship with God.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Our children, like us, will have peace when they have a relationship with God and not from anything that we will buy for [00:16:00] them.

Rev. Michele Owes: That is so true. One of the ways that we can know if we are in alignment with God in terms of what we're doing as parents, is whether we have any peace about what we're about to do.

Rev. Michele Owes: If we're about to throw the biggest second, second or 2-year-old party, or second graders' party that they've ever seen, and we've got all the class invited, we've got all the outfits, and the grab bags, and where we're going, and listen. If we are hyperventilating about how we're going to pay for it, if we have no peace in our hearts about what we're going to do, where we're going to do, or can I control all the grownup adults who are coming to this party who are not two years old, and do I want all of these people that I don't know celebrating my child, my child's birthday with them?

Rev. Michele Owes: Pause for just a moment. Think about what it is you're trying to do. Determine whether you have any peace about it. Yeah. If you're feeling [00:17:00] anxious and uneasy and have all these uncertainties, it's not the will of God for your life. The way of God is peace. Yes. And it's a peace that passes all understanding.

Rev. Michele Owes: It is okay for my 2-year-old not to have a party that the whole world can attend because guess what? My 2-year-old is not going to remember, and it's their birthday. They are the focus and our children, those who can remember what is going to happen. Those who aren't they far more appreciate a few moments alone with you. Yes, more than they will any gift that you can buy that they're going to tear up in a week or two, any outfit that you want to put on their back, that you will find on the floor, going anywhere that they won't even remember that they went.

Rev. Michele Owes: That also helps us with our stewardship. Yes, the money that we're spending on these elaborate birthday [00:18:00] parties, we can put in an educational fund. Yes. While they're this young, allow it to draw interest. And when they get ready to go to college, we haven't spent it all on lavish parties every year of their lives.

Rev. Michele Owes: And this may come as a surprise, but they don't really appreciate the parties.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Exactly. You know, I, was sharing with Reverend Hose earlier, one of the things that, I miss the most, not having, I have no pictures of me as a baby. I have no remembrance of myself as a baby. I have no history of what my life was as a baby.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: I never even knew people had birthday parties. As a young child, I never had a party in my entire life, until I think we were in the ministry, actually. I would love to have a picture of me as a baby. I would love to have what I suggested to that [00:19:00] young parent, a picture of me in a party hat, one little cupcake, and a candle.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: That is what is important to children. Reverend Owes shared that she had made albums for her children throughout the years. And can you imagine what that's going to mean to them? As they age, as they get older and they take possession of those books. That's what's important because mommy and daddy had so much love for me that they took pictures of me with my siblings, took pictures of me with my toys, took pictures of me with my animals, or whatever.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: That's what's important. It's what flows out of a heart of love. That really makes a difference. I understand so much better now, how important it is that we have tangible things like that rather than something that you ate or [00:20:00] something that you played on or something that you outgrew.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Those things are insignificant, but a memory, there is nothing quite as precious as a memory. And I can really, attest to that now because, you know, I'm 82 years old and all I have from all of my history really is just memories. I, I have only one sibling left. She doesn't really realize that she's still in the earth.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: And I think about my brothers and my sisters. It was so many of us, but now all I have are the memories and the pictures that we took. I love that. Sometimes I'll sit and look at those pictures so we don't have to be like the world, we don't have to celebrate like the world. And our children will appreciate what.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: We train them to appreciate. And so we have to put our desires and our feelings on the back burner and do things [00:21:00] that are important and significant. Always remembering that the most important thing we can do with these children and for these children is to help them to develop the fruit of the spirit.

Rev. Michele Owes: Amen. If you're planning a gathering for a child's birthday, ask yourself why. Ask yourself for whom? Some of the older people that end up coming to the party, we are not sure what they're going to do. Will the little red cups be passed around at the party, or will everybody come from the backyard smelling a little different?

Rev. Michele Owes: Will what they did out there, cause their eyes to be red. What will your child see during the party that you didn't plan for? Maybe, you just wanted to have people appreciate them, but is that necessary. Your child wants to know that you appreciate them. That's right. And to have some [00:22:00] moments alone with you.

Rev. Michele Owes: Here's what we will do. We will plan the gathering. We have an attitude while we're doing it because we do all the work by ourselves. We are working our fingers to the bone to cook everything, to buy everything, to set everything up, to get everything decorated. Then everybody gets there. We don't really enjoy the party because we're too tired, we're too grumpy.

Rev. Michele Owes: We don't want anybody to do this. And nobody can help me do it. I got this, I got that. By the time the party is over, you got to fall out and go to sleep somewhere. Then there is the cleanup. You can't really get to it 'cause you're just too tired. But you know, you have not enjoyed a thing.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Why then? Why do we do it? Amen. When what our child would really appreciate is it's your day. Yes. It's a special day. It's you and me. What can we do together? Yes. And you know, it's so good as parents. Don't forget the wonderful. Thrill of reading to your child. Sharing a book, sharing a story with them that is [00:23:00] so much more meaningful than anything that we could buy them.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: And I, thought earlier that, you know, we could take them rather than buying, having an elaborate party, we could take them to an ice cream parlor They've never been to before. And you can have let them order whatever flavor of ice cream they want. And they can have fun just doing that. Children do not need all of the things that we do for them.

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: We do it for our own satisfaction, I think. And it doesn't give them peace. And it certainly doesn't give us peace either. So we can just stop. We can just stop. We don't have to do that. Right. And we can, we can develop, sometimes it would just be good to ask the child, what would you like to do?

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Yes. And I guarantee you most of them will not say, throw me a birthday party, unless they have been trained to expect a whole bunch of gifts on one day from a whole bunch of different people that they don't really know, don't really [00:24:00] like, don't really care, but it's my day, so everybody pour it on.

Rev. Michele Owes: Right. Yeah. If our child has been set up to expect something from people when they walk in the door because it's their birthday, we've done something wrong. We've done something wrong. Because the gift is really the people. Yes. It's the love and the care that they show. We used to get a few dollars in an envelope, a cake for our birthday, and some ice cream.

Rev. Michele Owes: The family would sing Happy Birthday to you. That was enough. But now we have just taken it, so why are we talking about that? We're talking about, we're using birthdays as one small example. But it's not just birthdays. It’s buying a car before its time. It's trying to purchase outfits before it's time.

Rev. Michele Owes: It's spending money on elaborate proms. I read an article in the newspaper the other day that some parents are spending 10 to $15,000 to decorate their child's dorm room. It's no longer going in with [00:25:00] sheets and your blankets and a few pictures. They are going in there and remodeling these children's dorm rooms.

Rev. Michele Owes: Not even sure the child is going to stay. I'm just saying. Yes, there are some things that we can do to keep peace in our hearts, to stay in line with our children. When a child is going to college and they can't be trusted to pick a picture for the wall or the comforter, if the parent has gotten so involved, that’s a situation.

Rev. Michele Owes: This is what I want for my child. This is what I want people to see when they walk into my child's room. You missed it. You missed it. And, we are just setting up children who will miss it, because as parents, we missed it. The necessities are important. We need to make sure that we provide those.

Rev. Michele Owes: But more than that, if our children do not know God is their creator. Jesus is their Savior, and the Holy Ghost is their guide. Yes, then we've missed our job altogether. They're not going to have any peace and [00:26:00] neither are we. Amen. That's so true, and there's nothing more precious than having the peace of God that passes all understanding to rest rule and to abide in your heart. There's nothing more precious than that, and it doesn't cost a thousand dollars. It doesn’t cost a hundred dollars, doesn't cost

Rev. Diana P. Cherry: $50. It is a free gift from God. So teach our children to be peaceful and that comes from having been taught of the Lord.

Rev. Michele Owes: Amen. We appreciate you joining us for this podcast and we will see you on our next podcast. We love you. God bless. We love.