The Approach - Part 2
The Teachable Woman Podcast
The Approach: Character Before Cost
Introduction
Welcome back to the Teachable Woman Podcast, where Reverend Michele Owes and Reverend Diana P. Cherry continue their commitment to being “Teachers of Good Things.” Although the two hosts are recording from different locations in this episode, they emphasize that they remain united in their attitudes, actions, hearts, and desire to teach women and men according to biblical principles.
Building on their previous conversation about “The Approach,” the hosts address a troubling dating expectation they have heard from young adults: the idea that a man should pay for a woman’s hair, nails, clothing, childcare, or other personal expenses before he can simply meet her for a cup of coffee. They also discuss the growing tendency to evaluate potential relationships according to income, real estate, investments, and financial status rather than character, conduct, and commitment.
With honesty, love, humor, personal experience, and biblical instruction, Michele and Diana challenge listeners to examine their expectations, take responsibility for themselves, respect others, and trust God rather than attempting to obtain blessings through another person.
1. Are We Looking for Character or What Someone Can Buy?
The conversation begins with the hosts addressing the expectation that a man should finance a woman’s preparation before a first meeting. Hair, nails, clothing, childcare, and other expenses should not become the price of admission for someone simply wanting to get to know you.
The hosts question the heart behind such expectations. Are we interested in the person, or are we interested in what the person can provide?
Diana emphasizes that a woman should never see herself as something that can be purchased. Michele points listeners back toward evaluating character, conduct, and commitment rather than financial status.
2. A Woman Should Know Her Worth
Diana shares personal experiences from her younger years and explains that she has always valued independence and responsibility. She recalls an occasion when her future husband left money to pay an electric bill he had seen in her home. Rather than accepting the money, she told him she was capable of paying her own bill.
Her point is not that people should never help one another. Instead, she challenges the mindset of expecting someone else to carry responsibilities that belong to us.
The hosts remind women that their value does not come from what a man can purchase for them. They point to the biblical picture of a woman whose “price is far above rubies” and challenge women not to compromise their dignity for material benefits.
3. The Wise Woman Builds—She Doesn't Tear Down
Michele connects the discussion to Proverbs and the biblical principle that a wise woman builds her house while a foolish woman tears it down with her own hands.
The hosts explain that demanding that someone else finance your appearance, childcare, or personal needs before even getting to know you can destroy an opportunity before it begins.
They encourage women to take care of themselves. Personal grooming, appearance, responsibilities, and everyday needs should not automatically become another person's obligation.
The larger lesson is self-responsibility. A woman should not enter a relationship expecting another person to do the work she is capable of doing herself.
4. What Are We Teaching the Next Generation?
The conversation expands beyond dating and into parenting.
Diana challenges mothers and fathers to teach their children biblical standards rather than allowing the culture to establish their values. She encourages parents to teach their sons how to recognize unhealthy expectations and to understand that manipulation and exploitation are not godly.
She also speaks about observing children and noticing attitudes, behavior, clothing, and the ways children respond to their parents. The hosts stress that teaching begins early.
Their message is clear: parents cannot wait until their children become adults to teach them values.
Christian parents have a responsibility to teach children that following God may require them to be different from the culture around them.
5. Christians Are Called to Be Distinctive
Diana strongly emphasizes that Christians are supposed to be different from the world—not because they are better than other people, but because they belong to God.
She challenges listeners to examine whether the church has become too comfortable adopting the world's thinking, behavior, standards, and priorities.
The hosts call for a return to biblical truth, emphasizing that sin is still sin, righteousness is still righteousness, and obedience to God still matters.
They remind listeners that loving God is demonstrated through obedience. Rather than constantly focusing on what God can do for us, believers should also ask what God requires of us.
The goal is not merely to receive God's blessings but to live in a manner that honors Him.
6. Respect, Responsibility, and Reciprocity in Relationships
Michele shares a personal example from her marriage. When she and her husband were living in different states, she decided she would not leave her job and move until she found comparable employment. She had student loans and did not want to make her husband responsible for debts that were hers.
That story becomes a practical illustration of responsibility and consideration in relationships.
Michele challenges listeners to reverse the situation and ask themselves: Would you do for a man what you expect him to do for you?
Would you pay for his haircut, his clothes, childcare, or other personal expenses simply because he wanted to meet you?
The hosts encourage women and men to respect one another as God's creation. A relationship should not be built around using someone for what they possess. Instead, trust should be built through character, good conduct, commitment, love, and mutual respect.
7. Don't Let a Shortcut Take You Away From God's Best
The hosts close the conversation with a powerful reminder: trying to obtain something through manipulation, entitlement, or another person's resources may look like a shortcut, but it can lead somewhere very different from where we intended to go.
Michele explains that taking advantage of one man can affect the way he views women who come after you. It can damage trust and make it harder for him to believe that he can find a woman whose heart can be safely trusted.
The hosts encourage listeners to allow God to love them, teach them, provide for them, and direct their lives. God's provision is greater than anything a human being can provide.
They remind listeners that there is no condemnation in Christ Jesus, but love requires them to tell the truth. Their goal is not to condemn women but to help them recognize unhealthy thinking before it leads them down the wrong road.
The episode closes with encouragement to be strong, remain encouraged, share the podcast, contact the hosts through teachablewoman.com, listen and re-listen to the episode, and remember the 37-second prayer.
Summary
In this episode of the Teachable Woman Podcast, Reverend Michele Owes and Reverend Diana P. Cherry address expectations, entitlement, responsibility, relationships, parenting, Christian standards, and the importance of trusting God.
Their central message is that a person's worth should never be measured by what someone else can buy or provide. Healthy relationships should be built on character, conduct, commitment, respect, responsibility, and trust.
Women are encouraged to care for themselves rather than expecting men to finance their personal needs before a relationship has even begun. Men are encouraged to recognize unhealthy expectations and not allow themselves to be exploited. Parents are challenged to teach their children biblical values early, and Christians are reminded that they are called to be distinct from the world.
Most importantly, the hosts encourage listeners to stop looking for shortcuts and allow God to direct their lives. What God provides is greater than anything people can manufacture or obtain through manipulation.
The hosts' desire throughout this conversation is not condemnation, but correction rooted in love. They want listeners to know better so they can do better, walk according to God's Word, protect their character, respect others, and receive God's blessings in a way that glorifies Him without destroying anyone else.
The Teachable Woman Podcast
The Approach
Reverends Michele Owes and Diana P. Cherry
Rev. Michele Owes: [00:00:00] Welcome. Welcome. Welcome back to the Teachable Woman podcast. We are excited to be with you today. I am Reverend Michelle Oates. I am with Reverend Mrs. Deanna P. Cherry, and together we are teachers of good things. Mrs. Cherry, please say hello to our podcast family and friends.
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Hello, podcast family. We could not say we're teachers of good things together this time because we're in different locations, but we are indeed together in our attitudes, in our actions, in our hearts, and in our desire to continue to teach you good things. Our prayer is that you will take that which we teach and maximize it. bless you
Rev. Michele Owes: Amen. Well, the very last time that we were together, the last message that we shared [00:01:00] with you was the approach. And in that message, we took the time to encourage those, uh, young men who saw women that they would like to get to know better in the body of Christ, but were hesitant because maybe they thought that their status in life did not meet the status of the person that they wanted to speak or be f- with or befriend.
And so we talked about the approach. And since then, I have learned of something that is happening socially in the world that we also wanted to take a moment and talk about, uh, which is this thought that before a person can have a cup of coffee with a young woman, that they must buy the dress or the outfit for the gathering, that they must pay for the hair to be done and for the nails to be done, and if there are any children involved, that it is also required of that [00:02:00] male to pay for the babysitter.
And this is all before you get to sit down at the coffee house and have a cup of coffee. And that, it just caused me to pause, Miss Cherry. First and foremost, it, it broke my heart. It, it really just broke my heart. Um, I also learned that it is not uncommon for just even in conversation for individuals to be asking what a person's income was, how much money they made, what, uh, real estate they had, any stocks that they had, as though people were being interviewed for financial status more so than the character, the conduct, and the commitment of a person.
And so I thought before we continued, uh, our marriage series, which is part four, that we could delve into this just a little bit more because this knowledge just hurt my feelings, and it was [00:03:00] confirmed by several, uh, young adults this, this is a thing today. And so, Miss Cherry, tell me your thoughts, and then I'll tell you my m- why my feelings were hurt so badly.
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Well, thoughts now, our viewers by now know me. I'm plain as dirt. I used to always tell the women of the church, I'm just as plain as dirt, and I'm very down to earth. my initial when you said it was, "You must be kidding." How could we be expectant of something we don't have a right to expect anything from anybody? if we expect something from them, what on earth are we setting ourselves up to give in return for what they're going to give us? So I, I th- I'm a very practical thinker, I think it, I think it is horrible that any woman, [00:04:00] again, unborn again, saved, unsaved, would dare think that before they can say hi someone who is trying to find a virtuous woman, that someone has to put out something to buy me. In essence, that's what it is. of all, you're not to be for sale. There's nothing that they should be able to give you even to do for you if you're just trying to say hello. I remember... Let me share something, a personal thing that happened to me. First of all, back in my day, remembering I'm 83 But back in my day when I, uh, relocated back to the Washington area in the early '60s, I guess, um, the thing was from men, "Where do you work?
Do you have a job?" That was usually the first question. "Do you have an apartment?" And my [00:05:00] response internally, I w- I wouldn't respond. You know, I'm above that. I would just look at them kinda crazy-like, but I wouldn't respond because first of all, yes, I have a job, and I do have an apartment, but you're not going to bring your lazy behind into it, so. That w- that was kind of my response. That's the way it was back then, but I want to share something that happened I met my husband. was the most unusual man I had met, because I think that there were a lot of what I call jive turkeys back then, and even so now. Now they, now they're
Rev. Michele Owes: You went way back to get John Turkey
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: now they, now they're turkey gobblers. But when, when we had first started seeing each other, we never did do much dating 'cause he was in business. But one night, he, uh... One time when he came to my house, I had left, uh, a bill, a Pepco bill, that was our electric company, on [00:06:00] my area table, and, um, before he left, he put money on the table to pay for my bill. like, "I did not have that bill on that table because I wanted you to see it, and I was asking you for help. I am quite capable of paying my own electric bill, so would you kindly take your money and put it back in your pocket? 'Cause I don't want it." But it's-- I've always been like this. I mean, maybe I was just born practical, I don't know.
But I've always thought like I think. Unborn again, I thought like this. Um, n- I've never wanted something from somebody Uh, um, you know, I, I never want anybody to pay my way, so to speak. I always
Rev. Michele Owes: Right. Understood
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: you know... I used to make this statement, and I think I put it in both of my books. Um, you know, I always had the feeling I can do bad by myself, I don't need anybody to be, uh, a weight. I don't need anybody to be, um, you know, [00:07:00] something that would hinder my growth and progress. So, you know, I, I just... I cannot believe what you told me is happening. I just... I'm going to have to investigate it, and I find it unbelievable. But here we are. We're God's creation. He took quality time to make us. we're the r- responsive side of the man that He made. Our price is far above rubies, and we would dare compromise ourselves a hairdo, a nail do, dinner? I mean, really, I, I just... I, I'm in shock. I really am. I just I
Rev. Michele Owes: was too.
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: I
Rev. Michele Owes: was too. And, and I think my feelings were hurt,
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Yes
Rev. Michele Owes: one, because I have two sons and had three brothers, and, um, the thought that someone would have that [00:08:00] expectation before you could have a cup of coffee, um, just blew me away. But, but my feelings were hurt because Proverbs says that a, a wise woman builds her house, but a foolish one plucketh it down with her own hands.
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: own
Rev. Michele Owes: And so I think if there was even an opportunity to get to know the person who was willing to approach you We, we, we tore it down with our own hands by requesting that you get my hair done, my nail done, w- buy, buy me my dress and, and do the babysitter. But, but, but there should be a personal care for yourself in that before you walk out the door, your hair is done anyway.
You did it. You know, whether or not you tied it up or pulled it back into a ponytail, slicked it back, got your little baby hair down front, whatever you needed to do, that you're-- It's our job to care for ourselves
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Yes
Rev. Michele Owes: our appearance. [00:09:00] It is our job to make sure that our nails get done. If they don't get done, clip them down.
You can file them yourself. You can put some paint on them yourself. You do absolutely not need to be sitting in somebody's chair and let someone else do your nails if you know how to work a nail file, and you know how to hold a hand, a hand steady to put some nail polish on them. Get a girlfriend over, "Hey, come polish my nails for me."
Do... Look, do those things that you know are right to do. No man owes you anything. Nothing. Absolutely, positively nothing. It is a, it is showing a sign of disrespect for yourself
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Be yourself
Rev. Michele Owes: that kind of request. It is a, a clear indication that you are not willing to care for yourself, so you want a man or someone to do it for you.
These are [00:10:00] all red flags for a man.
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Yes
Rev. Michele Owes: know that there are some people who are willing to, they say, fork the money out. There are some who will. So what if they will? What do you care about your own self? Do you want a man to feel like he has to pay for you before he can get to know you? That is, that is just...
Come on, sisters. We, we are here for you. We love you. You have a God who created you, who is willing to sustain you. But, but we're not here to take advantage of anybody over anything for any reason. That unfair taking advantage of is what is costing us the, our country today.
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Mm-hmm
Rev. Michele Owes: Just taking absolute unfair advantage of a situation.
So, you know, we first of all want you to know that God cares for you and He loves you, and He has fully equipped you to do what is necessary [00:11:00] in the earthly realm to care for you.
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Mm-hmm.
Rev. Michele Owes: And to expect someone else to do that who is not your parent Who has not been charged to care for you, who is not your husband.
Um, come on, come on.
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Yes.
Rev. Michele Owes: want you to know better so you can do better.
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Right
Rev. Michele Owes: learned that we don't do well when we don't know better. But we want, Mrs. Cherry and I want you to know better so that you can do better. You are the wise woman who builds her house. You are equipped to build. But so many seem to want to just walk into something that they, they took no part in
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Mm-hmm.
Rev. Michele Owes: and want to just enjoy the labor of someone else while you do not labor yourself.
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Hmm
Rev. Michele Owes: That is not the plan of God. The virtuous woman in Proverbs, the 31st chapter or is it the 30th chapter? One of the two. It's the 30th or the 31st. 31? [00:12:00] 31. Thank you. That woman worked
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Yes. Yes, and
Rev. Michele Owes: That woman worked
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: gave good counsel to her son too.
Rev. Michele Owes: Yeah.
Well, you know...
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: And
Rev. Michele Owes: ahead, Ms. Cherry, just
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: moms, you know, teach these boys that if they're approached by a woman like that, or if they say hi to a woman and they lay out those kinds of demands, for them to perform, let your sons know that that's not of God, that that is ungodly, and that is not a
Rev. Michele Owes: हम्म। हम्म।
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: consider. we are Christians. We're supposed to be distinctively different from the world in how we think, in how we act, in how we talk, how we dress. And, you know, Christianity is getting to be so compromised in the USA
Rev. Michele Owes: Yes
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: particularly. This is our country, so I can only speak, uh, for this country and what's [00:13:00] happening here. um, we have got to go back to the old time religion. You know, it was good enough for my mama and my grandmama and my grandpapa, and it's good enough for me. and we've just, we've just got to stop Letting our children even, that's where it begins. It begins with children. We've must stop letting our children think that looking like the world, and being like the world, and frisking your behind like the world, and all of that, that it's not acceptable to God. So a lot of things that our young women are faced with, because moms not hold up a strong standard for them, and moms did not teach them. And, uh, I ha- I was out with my three great-grandchildren the other day and of course observing children. I love to watch people. I'm just [00:14:00] amazed at the attitudes of our children.
I mean, little children, six years old, eight years old, 10 years old, and how the parents are letting them dress, and how the children are responding to their parents. You know, I just... I was just sitting and watching. You know I wasn't going to go on any of those crazy rides that they were going on. I watched them. So I had a lot of opportunities to observe. you're right, it, it breaks our hearts
Rev. Michele Owes: Yeah
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: how far from righteousness we have become. And we are. And not just the world, but the church, the members of the church.
Rev. Michele Owes: bought in
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: saints, we must do better. You know? We
Rev. Michele Owes: Yes
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: like the world, we don't have to talk like the world, we don't have to act like the world. And there is great joy and reward in being [00:15:00] distinctively different. As I, I think about young one in your life who's about to get married, and her dedication to her Lord and her savior, and her ability not to go crazy in the world, but to, you know, join a church and to be actively involved in that church. then she was found, know?
Rev. Michele Owes: Yes.
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: there's going to be a union that's according to the word of God. And she hasn't compromised her standards, I don't believe. It works if you make it work, if you let it
Rev. Michele Owes: Yes.
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: is God, and if we trust him And we not try to be like the world, but we continue to strive to be like God, honestly, God's going to take care of us.
Honestly, we will have a better life. we just have to keep preaching it. You know, we just, we just
Rev. Michele Owes: Yes. Yes
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: what the truth is. Because Rev knows there are not many people in the [00:16:00] ministry who really teach truth and who really teach
Rev. Michele Owes: I agree
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: is still sin and righteousness is righteousness and, and we're supposed to be do-gooders.
You know, there are not many people in the body of Christ even now. We're teaching what we want God to do for us and manifest this and manifest... Well,
Rev. Michele Owes: उह! उह!
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: and obey Him and love Him. If we love Him, we will obey Him. So, know, you're listening to two women have quite a bit of experience, you're lis- you're hearing our hearts, our hearts are towards you and what you to desire for yourselves
Rev. Michele Owes: Mm-hmm. When I was, um When I married my husband, and we were both living in two different states at the time, and we agreed that I would not leave my current job and move [00:17:00] to his state until I found a job comparable to the one that I had. And my reasoning for that was because I had student loans that I would not burden him with.
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Wow
Rev. Michele Owes: And I told him that these were my student loans, and I will pay for my student loans. He's like, "Well, I can take care..." "No, you cannot." 'Cause he didn't have any student loans. He was on scholarships. But I had student loans. I was like, "No, no. I would not dare burden you with Sallie Mae. I will pay for my own student loans."
So I, I want, first of all, for those women who feel like a man should do that for you, ask yourself if you would do that for a man. Would you have his hair cut? Would you buy him an outfit to meet you with? Would you pay for childcare for his children? Would [00:18:00] you pay for his massage before he met up with you?
Would you do that in reverse? And if you think that is just ridiculous or preposterous or crazy,
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: It
Rev. Michele Owes: I'm going to say right back at you.
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Right.
Rev. Michele Owes: Right back at you in reverse, right? We have to learn to respect God's creation.
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Yeah
Rev. Michele Owes: created man, and we have to be willing to respect who God created in the fashion in which He created him.
He is not to be used, not to be taken advantage of, not to be, um, h- uh, as they used to say, hit over the head and knocked down 'cause you being a fool or because a man is kind to us, we take advantage.
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Yes
Rev. Michele Owes: is not our role. Our role is to make sure that a man's heart can be safely trusted with us,
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Yes, yes
Rev. Michele Owes: and a man cannot trust a woman whose, whose [00:19:00] undergirded thought is to take advantage of him or what he has.
And why would you want what he has if you have not worked a day to gain it?
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Right
Rev. Michele Owes: Why, why? I mean, who says you can have what is not yours?
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: is stealing
Rev. Michele Owes: If a man is willing to find you and share what he has with you, that's one thing. But you will have needed to show him that you have some character, that you got some good conduct, and you going to be committed.
You-- This, this is not... Come on now. Let God love you. Let God love you.
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Yes.
Rev. Michele Owes: Let God love you. Let Him teach you
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Yes
Rev. Michele Owes: your role and responsibility is. And no, it's not cookie cutter. We're not all going to do the same thing. We are not all going to be the same thing. But what we are to do is love one another. What we are to do is to make sure that we are not trying to covet what [00:20:00] someone else has.
We are not trying to steal. Thou shalt not kill. Thou shalt not steal. Let me, let me tell you what it does when men hear this. It kills their hope of finding the right woman. It kills their trust in who a woman can be and should be to them. And when a woman takes advantage of a man, you just made it harder for the next woman that comes along that may be right for him because we have misjudged, taken advantage of.
We've gone astray, is really what we've done in the most basic of ways. We've gone astray in our thinking.
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: uh-huh.
Rev. Michele Owes: so we are not supposed to. Thou shalt not kill. We, we can kill a man's hopes and his thoughts of who a woman is. Thou shalt not steal. These ridiculous requests, we're really just stealing from his earnings because [00:21:00] we've not earned them.
We've done nothing to gain them And so, mm-mm, my, my feelings are hurt
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: I know. You're listening to women who have your best interests at heart, who at this point are really heartbroken by the most recent news that we received on the prevailing attitudes and actions and things that are happening in the world. we're here to say that we, as always, we serve a God who never changes, He wants a people who will not change. And,
Rev. Michele Owes: Amen
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: you know, we're not fussing, but we're heartbroken, and we're
Rev. Michele Owes: Yes
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: expressing deep, deep heartfelt, sympathy. Really, I feel sorry that any woman would think like that. it
Rev. Michele Owes: Yeah
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: me that I've must do a better job. My
Rev. Michele Owes: Amen
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: just worked with [00:22:00] me to get me, uh, signed up on an individual, um, to speak to the public. I think, um, I think that he did it just in time, so I'm hoping that I can announce soon avenue that I have established whereby I can share, some wisdom from above and some wisdom from my heart. And I'll, I'll be letting you know more about that in the future. But, that's probably why has done what He has done for me, and I'll be letting you know about it very soon
Rev. Michele Owes: Amen. Amen. Well, listen, we love you.
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Yes
Rev. Michele Owes: We-- There is no condemnation in Christ Jesus, but we absolutely have to tell you the truth.
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Oh,
Rev. Michele Owes: There is no way that you can receive God's best because it doesn't demonstrate your faith in Him at all. It demonstrates that you believe man can do something for you that God cannot.
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Yes
Rev. Michele Owes: so we, we don't want to see you go down the wrong road. [00:23:00] And what, what we end up with is so different from what we imagine when we go this way, and we feel as though we are planning a shortcut to something good, and that's not what ends up happening. And so we are so excited that you chose to listen to this podcast today.
We ask that you would just share it so that, um, as Mrs. Cherry said, we've must do more, we've must teach more,
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Yeah
Rev. Michele Owes: share more, um, so that God can be pleased with who we are,
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Yes
Rev. Michele Owes: then we can receive the blessings that He has planned for us
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Right
Rev. Michele Owes: in a way that glorifies Him but doesn't destroy anyone else.
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Right. And, and the, and what He can do for us is far above what any human being can do for us. And, and whatever He does for us, we're going to have joy, and
Rev. Michele Owes: Yeah
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: better than joy and peace and love and kindness, and those fruit of the spirit that we taught about a year and a half or so ago. [00:24:00] So be strong. encouraged. Please don't be
Rev. Michele Owes: Amen
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: And if you want to reach out to either one of us, please feel free to, to contact us, we would gladly, um, answer any questions that you have. And,
Rev. Michele Owes: Yes
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: you know, as for me, you reach out to me and I'll give you my contact number, my phone number. You can call me because do anything to save one of our beautiful women of God from going astray and from being
Rev. Michele Owes: Amen.
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: You're important to
Rev. Michele Owes: And you can reach us, sorry. I'm sorry. You can reach us at teachablewoman.com. Go to our website and just choose the contact us, send us an email, and we will absolutely respond to you.
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Yes
Rev. Michele Owes: right. That does it for this podcast. Again, we are so excited that you are with us. We pray that you could hear our hearts and our love for you, more than that, God's love for you.
Thank you, Mrs. Terri, for being with us yet again. Thank you, our podcast [00:25:00] family, and we'll see you again on our next podcast. Don't forget to listen, re-listen, and share
Rev. Diana P. Cherry: Amen. God bless you. We love you, and don't forget to pray 37 seconds
Rev. Michele Owes: Amen. Bye-bye
